1 00:00:05,269 --> 00:00:03,990 this is a line from i don't know if it 2 00:00:07,990 --> 00:00:05,279 was from your book or from your updated 3 00:00:11,110 --> 00:00:08,000 book the pandemic was a stealth 4 00:00:13,990 --> 00:00:11,120 biological weapons attack on the us 5 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:14,000 is right really your contention so it is 6 00:00:18,230 --> 00:00:16,080 it is and here we take the story forward 7 00:00:20,310 --> 00:00:18,240 from february of 2020 when it was clear 8 00:00:23,509 --> 00:00:20,320 it came from the lab what we've learned 9 00:00:26,230 --> 00:00:23,519 since of course is that the nih and the 10 00:00:27,990 --> 00:00:26,240 pentagon was funding gain of function 11 00:00:29,509 --> 00:00:28,000 research at the wuhan institute of 12 00:00:31,669 --> 00:00:29,519 virology 13 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:31,679 we had actually trained people like the 14 00:00:36,549 --> 00:00:33,600 head of the wuhan p4 lab the high 15 00:00:38,229 --> 00:00:36,559 containment lab the p4 lab uh dr jung 16 00:00:40,389 --> 00:00:38,239 lee we had trained her at the university 17 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:40,399 of north carolina and at the galveston 18 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:42,960 labs run by the university of texas so 19 00:00:46,869 --> 00:00:44,879 we trained her in how to do the the gain 20 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:46,879 of function research to make existing 21 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:48,879 viruses corona viruses in this case more 22 00:00:53,189 --> 00:00:50,480 infectious and deadly 23 00:00:55,670 --> 00:00:53,199 and we also know that the pla bioweapons 24 00:00:57,750 --> 00:00:55,680 program was in part being carried out at 25 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:57,760 the wuhan institute of virology was part 26 00:01:03,270 --> 00:01:00,399 and parcel of the larger program that 27 00:01:06,070 --> 00:01:03,280 was run by a major general by the name 28 00:01:08,390 --> 00:01:06,080 of major general chun her her full name 29 00:01:10,230 --> 00:01:08,400 is chunwei and major general chunwei 30 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:10,240 said in 2017 31 00:01:14,950 --> 00:01:12,960 about the bioweapons program uh we need 32 00:01:17,109 --> 00:01:14,960 to develop a spear before we can develop 33 00:01:20,230 --> 00:01:17,119 a shield what was she referring to well 34 00:01:22,070 --> 00:01:20,240 the sphere is a coronavirus that is more 35 00:01:24,710 --> 00:01:22,080 infectious and more deadly 36 00:01:26,390 --> 00:01:24,720 and the shield is a vaccine 37 00:01:28,950 --> 00:01:26,400 well if you look at the coronavirus 38 00:01:30,630 --> 00:01:28,960 backbone it clearly has artificial 39 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:30,640 insertions well i have an advanced 40 00:01:33,990 --> 00:01:32,560 degree in biology before i went into 41 00:01:35,749 --> 00:01:34,000 sinology 42 00:01:36,870 --> 00:01:35,759 there are insertions to make it more 43 00:01:39,030 --> 00:01:36,880 infectious 44 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:39,040 so it's obviously genetically engineered 45 00:01:43,429 --> 00:01:41,360 how did it get out of the lab now my 46 00:01:44,310 --> 00:01:43,439 speculation and and this is speculation 47 00:01:46,069 --> 00:01:44,320 because there are a couple different 48 00:01:47,749 --> 00:01:46,079 ways this could have gone 49 00:01:50,389 --> 00:01:47,759 my thought is that they were doing 50 00:01:52,310 --> 00:01:50,399 vaccine trials in wuhan to try to 51 00:01:54,310 --> 00:01:52,320 develop the shield because they already 52 00:01:55,510 --> 00:01:54,320 had the spear all right so they're 53 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:55,520 trying to develop the shield an 54 00:01:59,990 --> 00:01:57,439 effective vaccine and it was an 55 00:02:02,149 --> 00:02:00,000 ineffective vaccine the virus leaked out 56 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:02,159 once they had a pandemic on their hands 57 00:02:06,310 --> 00:02:04,640 an epidemic on their hands in wuhan 58 00:02:09,029 --> 00:02:06,320 then the leadership of the communist 59 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:09,039 party quite clearly everyone agrees with 60 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:10,640 this decided to spread it around the 61 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:12,640 world they allowed planes filled with 62 00:02:18,470 --> 00:02:16,000 people who were infected to go to italy 63 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:18,480 and to spain so in other words just to 64 00:02:22,869 --> 00:02:20,480 stay on that point whereas they were 65 00:02:23,910 --> 00:02:22,879 shutting down wuhan telling people stay 66 00:02:25,670 --> 00:02:23,920 at home 67 00:02:27,110 --> 00:02:25,680 right right are you saying that at the 68 00:02:28,790 --> 00:02:27,120 same time they were telling people to 69 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:28,800 stay at home they were nonetheless 70 00:02:34,070 --> 00:02:31,440 allowing people to depart the country 71 00:02:36,309 --> 00:02:34,080 yes uh there were planes that were 72 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:36,319 flights were banned within china say 73 00:02:40,470 --> 00:02:38,319 from wuhan to beijing 74 00:02:42,710 --> 00:02:40,480 and they were allowed to fly from wuhan 75 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:42,720 to other countries including the united 76 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:43,760 states 77 00:02:48,550 --> 00:02:47,840 so it's it's clear that we have we have 78 00:03:25,910 --> 00:02:48,560 a 79 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:25,920 the only question is how did it get out 80 00:03:29,589 --> 00:03:27,840 of the lab and and there are also 81 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:29,599 reports and and i don't rule this out 82 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:32,879 either that at the world military games 83 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:35,200 that were held in wuhan that famous city 84 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:37,200 now that everyone knows about 85 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:40,000 uh in october of uh 86 00:03:45,270 --> 00:03:43,040 2019 from october 17th to october 24th 87 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:45,280 of 2019 world military games 8 000 88 00:03:49,509 --> 00:03:47,360 athletes came to wuhan 89 00:03:51,509 --> 00:03:49,519 some of them came back sick 90 00:03:53,910 --> 00:03:51,519 uh some french athletes german athletes 91 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,920 canadian athletes came back with a 92 00:03:56,869 --> 00:03:55,680 with a with a cold with a virus with the 93 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:56,879 flu 94 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:58,400 we didn't know what that was at the time 95 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:01,200 was that the first outbreak of the 96 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:03,519 coronavirus was it spread at the world 97 00:04:06,789 --> 00:04:05,920 military games should we be concerned 98 00:04:09,670 --> 00:04:06,799 about 99 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:11,509 winter olympics in beijing for the same 100 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:14,080 reason 101 00:04:17,030 --> 00:04:15,120 so what 102 00:04:19,590 --> 00:04:17,040 pushes you in the direction of it being 103 00:04:22,069 --> 00:04:19,600 a biological weapon as opposed to it 104 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:22,079 being experimenting with different 105 00:04:26,870 --> 00:04:25,120 viruses so that we're prepared if uh we 106 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:26,880 need that right if one right 107 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:28,560 that that's a very interesting question 108 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:31,280 and and the short answer is uh the 109 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:34,000 people's liberation army's involvement 110 00:04:37,590 --> 00:04:36,080 convinces me that it's a bioweapon 111 00:04:40,230 --> 00:04:37,600 because the people's liberation army is 112 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:40,240 not obviously not interested in 113 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:42,000 advancing the frontiers of scientific 114 00:04:46,070 --> 00:04:43,919 knowledge in a general sense they're 115 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:46,080 interested in developing bioweapons and 116 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:48,320 we know now from reading the chinese 117 00:04:53,909 --> 00:04:50,400 strategic literature that this has been 118 00:04:54,870 --> 00:04:53,919 a goal for a number of years so um 119 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:54,880 now 120 00:05:01,029 --> 00:04:57,199 i'm willing to grant that dr anthony 121 00:05:02,790 --> 00:05:01,039 fauci and a number of naive biologists 122 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:02,800 in the united states 123 00:05:06,550 --> 00:05:04,800 were simply trying to advance the 124 00:05:08,870 --> 00:05:06,560 frontiers of knowledge they were 125 00:05:10,390 --> 00:05:08,880 advocates and fauci particularly was a 126 00:05:13,270 --> 00:05:10,400 great advocate of gain of function 127 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:13,280 research because he argued that we 128 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:16,240 needed to create superbugs in the lab 129 00:05:20,710 --> 00:05:18,880 we needed to genetically enhance using 130 00:05:23,510 --> 00:05:20,720 gain of function techniques 131 00:05:24,469 --> 00:05:23,520 coronaviruses and other viruses bacteria 132 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:24,479 in the lab 133 00:05:29,270 --> 00:05:26,720 to become more infectious and deadly so 134 00:05:32,950 --> 00:05:29,280 we could then develop therapeutics 135 00:05:34,469 --> 00:05:32,960 and vaccines to defeat them in order to 136 00:05:40,469 --> 00:05:34,479 when the next 137 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:40,479 jumped from a bat to a human we would be 138 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:41,600 ready 139 00:05:45,990 --> 00:05:44,240 with therapeutics and and vaccines that 140 00:05:48,310 --> 00:05:46,000 we could develop quickly now i 141 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:48,320 understand that argument but a lot of 142 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:50,960 people including a lot of virologists 143 00:05:55,029 --> 00:05:52,880 immunologists and scientists in the 144 00:05:58,710 --> 00:05:55,039 united states said wait a minute 145 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:58,720 dr fauci this is very dangerous research 146 00:06:03,909 --> 00:06:01,600 there are lab leaks all the time from p2 147 00:06:05,749 --> 00:06:03,919 p3 p4 labs 148 00:06:07,830 --> 00:06:05,759 we shouldn't be developing superbugs in 149 00:06:09,990 --> 00:06:07,840 the lab what if it leaks out 150 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:10,000 and so we put a moratorium on that 151 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:11,120 research 152 00:06:15,189 --> 00:06:14,240 we stopped it in in 2014. 153 00:06:17,110 --> 00:06:15,199 well 154 00:06:18,150 --> 00:06:17,120 dr anthony fauci 155 00:06:20,230 --> 00:06:18,160 uh 156 00:06:21,909 --> 00:06:20,240 went looking elsewhere for a country 157 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:21,919 which would continue be willing to 158 00:06:26,790 --> 00:06:24,240 continue doing that research and he 159 00:06:28,870 --> 00:06:26,800 looked elsewhere for an organization 160 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:28,880 through which he could pass the funds to 161 00:06:33,590 --> 00:06:30,800 support it and he found that 162 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:33,600 organization in eco health alliance 163 00:06:40,390 --> 00:06:36,160 the head of which is peter dezek 164 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,400 who was funding using money from fauci 165 00:06:44,629 --> 00:06:42,479 nih well the national institute of 166 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:44,639 allergy and infectious disease is 167 00:06:49,990 --> 00:06:47,440 fauci's shop at the nih he has an annual 168 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:50,000 budget of 6.1 billion dollars uh you 169 00:06:53,110 --> 00:06:52,000 wonder why biologists are not willing to 170 00:06:54,790 --> 00:06:53,120 cross him 171 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:54,800 they get a lot of their research funds 172 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:56,880 from from dr anthony pouching half for 173 00:07:00,629 --> 00:06:58,400 decades and that is a government 174 00:07:02,870 --> 00:07:00,639 institution it's a government as part of 175 00:07:05,510 --> 00:07:02,880 the national institutes of health 176 00:07:07,350 --> 00:07:05,520 and and his particular area is the 177 00:07:10,230 --> 00:07:07,360 national institute of allergy and 178 00:07:13,189 --> 00:07:10,240 infectious disease six billion dollars 179 00:07:14,950 --> 00:07:13,199 six thousand million dollars to give out 180 00:07:17,670 --> 00:07:14,960 in research grants every year and to 181 00:07:20,230 --> 00:07:17,680 carry out research in his own shop so he 182 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:20,240 sent money to eco health alliance which 183 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:23,039 then funded uh the research of the wuhan 184 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:24,960 institute of virology now they were 185 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:26,880 china was happy to receive the funding 186 00:07:30,950 --> 00:07:29,120 of course they were happy to receive the 187 00:07:33,350 --> 00:07:30,960 technology so they could 188 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:33,360 do gain of function research but i would 189 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:35,120 argue their purpose in doing the gain of 190 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:37,520 function research was far different from 191 00:07:42,469 --> 00:07:39,360 what fauci had envisioned 192 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,479 they were working on bioweapons and 193 00:07:46,629 --> 00:07:44,800 specifically they were working on 194 00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:46,639 uh what we have come to call 195 00:07:51,430 --> 00:07:48,720 unrestricted bioweapons 196 00:07:52,710 --> 00:07:51,440 which are bioweapons that are 197 00:07:54,230 --> 00:07:52,720 you know when you normally think of a 198 00:07:57,670 --> 00:07:54,240 bioweapon you think of something like 199 00:07:59,990 --> 00:07:57,680 ebola right or anthrax that when you 200 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:00,000 spread it throughout a population 201 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:03,520 people die quickly and and painfully 202 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:05,120 this is different 203 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,759 this is highly infectious 204 00:08:12,950 --> 00:08:09,759 low low lethality 205 00:08:14,469 --> 00:08:12,960 and it has plausible deniability 206 00:08:17,189 --> 00:08:14,479 that is to say it spreads quickly it 207 00:08:19,189 --> 00:08:17,199 doesn't kill everybody that it infects 208 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:19,199 and it can be denied 209 00:08:23,589 --> 00:08:22,000 by the country that originated it and if 210 00:08:25,830 --> 00:08:23,599 you if you think about it that's 211 00:08:27,749 --> 00:08:25,840 precisely the profile 212 00:08:30,550 --> 00:08:27,759 that the coronavirus the novel 213 00:08:32,550 --> 00:08:30,560 coronavirus sars covert ii fits 214 00:08:34,870 --> 00:08:32,560 it is it is an unrestricted bioweapon 215 00:08:37,029 --> 00:08:34,880 highly infectious not very lethal and of 216 00:08:39,430 --> 00:08:37,039 course china's been denying uh from the 217 00:08:43,350 --> 00:08:39,440 get-go that it had anything to do with 218 00:08:46,310 --> 00:08:43,360 its origins when quite clearly it did 219 00:08:49,030 --> 00:08:46,320 but if it's a bioweapon 220 00:08:51,110 --> 00:08:49,040 it's not a terribly effective bioweapon 221 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:51,120 yeah it gets you sick 222 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:54,560 and old people die but as far as really 223 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:56,160 taking over a population it doesn't 224 00:08:59,750 --> 00:08:57,920 really do that 225 00:09:01,670 --> 00:08:59,760 that's right it doesn't fit the the 226 00:09:03,670 --> 00:09:01,680 traditional image we have of a bio 227 00:09:05,110 --> 00:09:03,680 weapon of killing lots of people quickly 228 00:09:07,829 --> 00:09:05,120 right so what would be the intent behind 229 00:09:09,990 --> 00:09:07,839 this type of biology but is it but is it 230 00:09:12,389 --> 00:09:10,000 has it been effective well think about 231 00:09:14,790 --> 00:09:12,399 it um it has 232 00:09:16,630 --> 00:09:14,800 put in the oval office 233 00:09:19,670 --> 00:09:16,640 um the chinese communist party's 234 00:09:22,710 --> 00:09:19,680 preferred presidential candidate 235 00:09:24,710 --> 00:09:22,720 joe biden so that's a victory it has 236 00:09:26,790 --> 00:09:24,720 caused trillions of dollars in economic 237 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:26,800 damage to the us economy 238 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:28,720 that's a victory it set back china's 239 00:09:33,030 --> 00:09:31,040 principal international competitor 240 00:09:34,790 --> 00:09:33,040 it has resulted in some debts mostly 241 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:34,800 those of the elderly and infirm and 242 00:09:38,389 --> 00:09:36,880 those with pre-existing conditions to be 243 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:38,399 sure 244 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:41,600 so so it has it has had a tremendous 245 00:09:46,389 --> 00:09:44,240 tremendous effect and and i'm afraid 246 00:09:48,230 --> 00:09:46,399 quite frankly that if we don't call 247 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:48,240 china to account 248 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:50,320 for releasing a deadly virus on the 249 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:52,080 world this time if we don't demand 250 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:54,640 reparations or impose penalties and 251 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:57,920 costs on china for releasing a deadly 252 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:00,720 virus on the world then they will do it 253 00:10:04,949 --> 00:10:03,120 again at some point in the future thank 254 00:10:07,350 --> 00:10:04,959 you again to our guest stephen mosher 255 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:07,360 you can check out his book bully of asia 256 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:09,519 why china's dream is the new threat to 257 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:10,720 world order 258 00:10:13,350 --> 00:10:12,079 thanks to our producer michael parker 259 00:10:15,030 --> 00:10:13,360 thank you all for listening we'll be 260 00:10:21,269 --> 00:10:15,040 back soon with another episode of the 261 00:10:24,470 --> 00:10:22,790 thank you for listening to the truth 262 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:24,480 show with jim breslow 263 00:10:30,829 --> 00:10:28,079 you can find us at hiddentruthshow.com 264 00:10:33,030 --> 00:10:30,839 follow us on facebook twitter and 265 00:10:34,790 --> 00:10:33,040 instagram that hit the truth show 266 00:10:37,509 --> 00:10:34,800 join us again next week for another 267 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:37,519 episode of hidden truth show with jim